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I am from the UK and I had a similar experience even though circumcision is pretty rare over here. My first TWO proper boyfriends, whom I had regular sex with, had been circ'd when they were children, for whatever reason; I think both had some sort of phimosis. Anyway, I basically avoided sex with the first one because I really didn't like it, as it just rubbed - I mean, he was very large too, which probably made matters worse. The second was more average and he was more gentle because of the type of person he was, but no matter what, after a while sex would become uncomfortable and I would want it to just end - so would without fail, I would fake an orgasm, so he would cum. I thought it was me, or blamed condoms, as I can't take the pill because it makes me act like a loony.

Anyway, then I met my ex, who was like most men over here - not circ'd. I remember how we would have sex for what seemed like forever; it would always just feel fantastic and occasionally I would get head rushes that made me feel like I was on drugs (I still get this now with my current partner). With him, and my current partner, I cum every time and if for whatever reason don't, I feel 'hard done by somehow', and want to have more sex later to make up for it. During sex I do have to stimulate my clitoris (or they do), in order to reach climax, but the point is I actually want to have an orgasm, rather than just hope he will cum and it will be over. Oh and I used/use condoms with both uncirc'd men, and I find the condom just moves with the foreskin, so although it is never going to be as good as without, it is still comfortable and feels 1000 times better than being with a circ'd man.

As it is now, I don't think if I become single again, that I would have a relationship with a circ'd man, there's just no point. With both circ'd exes I grew resentful of them for enjoying sex when I really didn't, plus I'm sure they resented my equally when I just stopped wanting to do it with them completely. It's no way to feel about your partner, and it just festers until you both can't stand each other, or in both my cases, I couldn't stand them. And both treated me better than the last (non-circ'd) guy, but I never till this day grew to despise him they way I do them, and for no good reason in their cases when I think about it. It's really weird.

But I can categorically say from experience, sex with an uncircumcised man is not just much much better, but it actually doesn't leave you in pain after, instead it leaves you wanting more! I feel sorry for all men who were circ'd at birth, and advise them to look into restoration of some sort.
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Just like Elizabeth Bennett said:

"Having sex with a circumcised man is uncomfortable for a woman, and this discomfort (often pain) quickly trains her to avoid sex. She make excuses, like "I have a headache," "I'm too stressed-out about housework," or more honestly "I have a bladder infection/cystitis," or "I feel chafed," or "I feel bruised from last time."

If you are circumcised, you have been Sexually Mutilated. You are unable to have sex with a woman in anything close to a normal way. "Lovemaking techniques" and "communication" are tiny band-aids over the gaping wound that is your relationship. Your circumcision is the giant, bloody, severed ox head on the table, rotting and filled with maggots, that everyone, including your parents, ignores, while politely sipping cocktails and pretending everything is normal. You must face the fact that you were Sexually Mutilated (by Establishment Rapists in White Coats), go through a grieving process, and take steps to correct the damage that has been done to you, to the best of your ability.
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"Thank you for this article. I am a woman in my upper 20's (OHIO- USA) and have only been with circumcised men. I never considered the impact on my sexual pleasure. I could write a novel about my experiences. This explains A LOT. How can I tell my husband I want him to 'fix' his snipped off penis? UGH. Thank God for this article, I left my infant son intact. I hope he appreciates having his whole penis, as well as any future love mates. I am so sad, stuck, and ANGRY at the medical INDUSTRY for perpetuating MYTHS, or at least not telling the WHOLE truth. This effects EVERYONE. SO SAD."

"For YEARS I thought there was something wrong with me! I had one boyfriend who was intact and never had these issues (dryness so bad it led to fear of intercourse) while I was with him. Unfortunately, I chalked it up to "being truly attracted to him." Which I now realize was complete bull.
Unfortunately, I am experiencing these things again with my husband. Now I just need to figure out how to bring it up with him.
This article made me cry. A woman should never be made to feel like she's broken when she's not. Thank you so much."

"I can firsthand attest to the fact that the foreskin is NOT just a "flap of skin," but very definitely a functioning part of the male sexual anatomy. I'm American and because of my age and where I'm from, I never encountered a normal intact penis until I met my Argentine husband. It was an awakening. Oooooohhhhh...so *this* is what it is supposed to be like! I no longer have any of the problems I always had with circumcised men--discomfort, pain, dryness, boredom because the pounding went on and on and on, inability to climax, etc."

"My circ'ed ex-husband and I had a dysfunctional sex life also, I had burning and pain after sex and wondered if it could be a reaction to his semen, never occurred to me that it could be a lack of foreskin - until this article! He developed premature ejaculation and this actually suited me better, as the hard friction didn't last long and I didn't suffer as much discomfort afterwards."

"My husband is circumcised, and he has been the only one I have ever had sex with in my life, so I cannot compare like others can. It is hard for me to admit to other people something so personal for me, but it took me many many times, of having sex to be able to feel actually something other than rash and pain. And even now that it has gotten better with the years of 'practice', most of the time it takes a lot of effort from my husband's part to get me to feel what I am supposed to feel and reach an orgasm. I never thought in all these years that it could be because of his circumcision, I always thought that I must be broken, or there was something wrong with me... and I terribly regret doing the same barbarity to our first born that it was done to him, me and my husband have and are still grieving for our son ever since we became informed, now that I am pregnant with boy #2, who will be left intact... I hope that our son, can one day when he is older forgive us for our stupidity, I wish that there was something that I could do to undo what was done to him."

"My husband is intact...but yeah..I felt a definite disconnect with circumcised partners than I did with intact partners. It wasn't just a physical disconnect, it was an emotional distancing as well like I just lay there...was rather meh. With my intact partners, including my husband, it is a deeply bonding experience."

"Throughout my sexual history, my body has known this to be true but I had not known it really made sense. As a female, it has been difficult to express the level of sadness I feel when I see a cut penis. Men who still defend the practice create a mythical obligation to have it done to protect their view of their parents."

"My husband is beautifully intact. The only man I have ever slept with that is actually. All my previous sex partners were cut, and I DO remember very clearly the roughness and post sex burning around my vagina and urethra. That has NEVER happened with my husband, and I never really thought about why until now, 10 years later! Intercourse with my husband has never been something to fear or regret afterward, and the act itself is without fail quite amazing, with relatively little work on his part."

"When I was in college in the 1970s, there was a lot of frank talk of "Monday blues," bladder infections, of loving the closeness and the daring (girls too have dirty minds and like to Walk on the Wild Side), but being unable to climax. Only decades later did I begin connecting the sarcasm and anguish of young women with circumcision, and blame the American Foreskin Holocaust for all this unhappiness."

"My husband and I have some degree of sexual dysfunction that I believe is related to his circumcision. I still enjoy sex, but at the end is always uncomfortable for me and rushed for him, because it simply takes so long and such intense thrusting to satisfy him. He has several brothers and their wives have all mentioned that that part of sex is just "too long" for us, and although we laugh it really isn't funny. It was not like this with my intact boyfriend. We didn't have to use artificial lubricant every time either, like I do with my husband. If we don't use lube sex can *hurt me* and that's really sad."

"Sex is a chore because I hate the chafing and burning. It's very uncomfortable for me as well (so much for the 'it only effects men myth). I don't want to use lube because it's so messy and gross. I know my husband would get sex a lot more often if it wasn't so uncomfortable for me, because I just see it as painful. Not something you can really get used to either, and I do have a very good sex drive. But, it's almost like the pain is conditioning me to not want to do it! I never got a chance to have sex with an intact man, but it would have been nice to have the opportunity to at least compare the differences. Maybe if more guys would restore, they wouldn't be so 'addicted' to oral sex. I suspect that being intact may feel more like oral sex, so maybe that's why so many cut guys like it. Who knows, I just wish more guys would restore and save their partners some pain as well. Restoring is a win-win situation."

More quotes at drmomma.org. These ones are from the comments section to the article Male Circumcision Hurts Women.

One man sums it nicely:
"Much of what I am I owe to the amazing woman that is my mother. She is 89 and sliding into dementia. But every time I pay my marital respects to my better half, I am reminded that thanks to my mother, my spouse gets to experience all the tender moving parts Mother Nature intended me to have. Porn and the lewd talk among young men have it all wrong: good sex for her is not fast and hard driving, but slow and gentle. I strongly suspect that the rhythm and pacing that is ideal for her is slow and boring for him if he is cut. If I am right here, the American obsession with the bald penis has given rise to an iatrogenic horror: a century of troubled American intercourse. It is high time we come to understand that the moving foreskin stands at the very centre of the human sexual experience."

By the way, whenever anyone brings up the sexually potent aroma of a natural or restored penis, just quote Elizabeth Bennett:

"Foreskin contains unique pheromone glands found nowhere else on the body, that about 30% of women could consciously notice, when sitting next to him on the couch, or standing near him. The other 70% are only subconsciously affected by these airborne sexual chemicals, and feel an increased sense of well-being, relaxation, and sexual arousal in his presence. A circumcised man is more neuter in this respect. He smells more like a plastic manikin to a woman."

Who wants to be more neuter????
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I have to doubt the legitimacy and "freshness" of posts from unregistered guests. They may be old hearsay stolen from other web sites. Just FYI.

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yep. nobody posts replies that quick on this forum.
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"I would get head rushes that made me feel like I was on drugs."
Now this can't be right. Free, natural, birthright "drugs"? Not in the United States of America, Ma'am.

A word from Kurt Johmann, PhD, author of The Computer Inside You.

America’s high rate of circumcision is just another way in which America does what it can to make sex expensive. Another example of this make-sex-expensive process is America’s criminalization of prostitution. As I have said elsewhere:

Similar to the American empire’s criminalization of certain drugs—in general, those drugs that affect the mind in a way that many people find desirable or enlightening—America has also criminalized prostitution. America claims to be an advocate of women’s rights, and free trade—but America denies women the right to trade sexual favors for money. Here is the underlying reason: the American empire strongly favors the owner class; and the owner class, as a rule, always favors policies that promote a concentration of wealth into its own hands. One of the ways to satisfy this general policy of concentrating wealth is to remove from the common man those pleasures that if legal and not overtly oppressed are cheap and plentiful. By criminalizing what is cheap and plentiful, the common man is driven to pay a higher price: either for the same goods which are now in shorter supply, or for alternative goods that come from fewer suppliers. And it is this higher price, flowing to fewer suppliers, which adds to the net transfer of wealth from the many to the few.


Johmann has other useful circumcision-related writings on his website. From his paper The Psychological Harm of Circumcision, he writes:

As already explained, the American empire advocates and sexually mutilates its male citizens because this sexual mutilation has anti-family effects. And the same American empire that mutilates its young men, also fills their minds with the appropriate garbage so that these mutilated young men grow up to be ignorant adult men believing that their circumcision was done for their benefit. Until recently I myself was one of these ignorant American men. When your mind is filled with garbage it does not matter how logical you are, you are going to reach garbage conclusions. For example, it is said that everyone remembers his first time (his first instance of sexual intercourse with a female). Not only do I remember my first time, but I also remember what I was thinking about later that night as I was lying in bed prior to sleeping: I was rather surprised and puzzled by the fact that the inner push to have intercourse was so strong but the actual reward was so small. She was young, good looking, and had a great body; I was young; and there was no condom or other barrier between our sexual organs. And yet, what I actually felt during the fucking process—in terms of sexual sensation and feeling—was less than what I felt during masturbation. I never did reach any conclusion that night as to this apparent contradiction (I had been taught that circumcision is beneficial, and I had never heard of circumcision’s negative sexual effects, so I was unable to arrive at a correct understanding). In retrospect, given my current knowledge, the explanation for this small reward is obvious. For the average natural man, sexual intercourse with a female is a very pleasurable experience (the natural penis and natural vagina are made for each other, and work together to please both partners). But for the average mutilated American man (I include myself in this category), sexual intercourse with a female is something he has to work at, like a chore, in an effort to reach orgasm.[10]

The basic problem for the average mutilated American man is that his penis has been so desensitized by his mutilation that normal sexual intercourse with a female does not provide enough stimulation—hence the mutilated man must work at it, banging away, trying to feel something. In an effort to get sex that is more stimulating, a large fraction of America’s mutilated men fantasize about and/or practice forms of sex that apply more pressure on the penis. For example, many mutilated American men fantasize about anal intercourse—and they practice it if they can get a female to agree to it (most women don’t want to do it). The anti-circumcision literature written by others usually treads lightly on this subject of alternative sex practices, and any mention usually limits itself to simply noting America’s comparatively high rates of oral and anal intercourse. A relevant subject I have not seen discussed in the anti-circumcision literature is American porno—probably because no one wants to admit any familiarity with it.

One thing I have noticed in many American porno magazines is the frequent use of the word tight when describing the women shown (for each female shown in a set of color photos, there is typically some accompanying fictional descriptive text about that female, and it is common for this fictional descriptive text to claim that she is tight).[11] Of course, the female vagina is not tight in the way the average mutilated American man would want, applying sufficient pressure on his desensitized penis. The fictional descriptive text that accompanies the photos is constructed to give the male buyers of that magazine what they want, and since most male buyers in America are mutilated, they want their women tight (note that the text writer himself is probably mutilated, which means he can reach his mutilated audience by simply projecting his own desires, such as a desire for tightness, into his writing). And it is for this exact same reason that anal intercourse is so commonplace in American porno. Everyone has an asshole, and everyone knows that it is tight. Thus, the attraction of anal intercourse for the average mutilated American man.[12]


He can be found on the WWW at johmann.net.
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Hey, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a whole and undamaged penis feels and functions better than a scarred and mutilated one. But some people have difficulty understanding this simple fact. Circumcision is a fraud and a hoax.
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What is up with all of these unregistered users preaching to the choir? It's getting old.
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Just like Elizabeth Bennett said:

"Having sex with a circumcised man is uncomfortable for a woman, and this discomfort (often pain) quickly trains her to avoid sex. She make excuses, like "I have a headache," "I'm too stressed-out about housework," or more honestly "I have a bladder infection/cystitis," or "I feel chafed," or "I feel bruised from last time."
Very good point, and ironically many of the women who say that probably don't know why they're saying it or what's causing the apathy. That same woman will then go on to circumcise her son.
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"but I never till this day grew to despise him they way I do them, and for no good reason in their cases when I think about it. It's really weird."

I think it's pretty messed up that you could 'despise' a person because they have no foreskin, dislike?, yeah sure would make sense, hate ? a little much, and despise? Thats a word I reserve for people I dislike enough to kill.
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